Curse

niek2004 · Jun 26, 2008, 12:58 PM // 12:58

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Originally Posted by Kibokun

Question to the experienced players though. Would I be gimping skills by playing AB and Competitives? So far I don't feel like I've learned much from either except how to zerg and basics of builds. If I'd be basically wasting my time with AB, I'd probably just split my time between RA (for the actual experience) and AB for faction.

Overall I guess I'll take away from this thread:
-Everyone has bad days
-I have no faction, but it'll come eventually?
-Keep at it
-Make friends with good players

Thanks!

Play:
1. Shockaxe.
2. Dev hammer.
3. Magebane ranger.
4. Monk, best would be to play prot monk.
5. Anything else like mesmer, necro or w/e that requires some coordination.

Don't play.
1. Thumper
2. A/mo smite caster thingie.
3. Any other button bash bar.

I think i have learned the most out of RA, after GVG.
now @ 3.9 mil BF

around · Jun 26, 2008, 06:23 PM // 18:23

Magebane lol is for people who think the epitome of leetness is spamming interrupts then boasting in local chat once you accidently get RoF.

niek2004 · Jun 26, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by spawnofebil

Magebane lol is for people who think the epitome of leetness is spamming interrupts then boasting in local chat once you accidently get RoF.

Magebane is for people who can actually play w/o having to "spam" interupts.

sorry to hear that you didnt manage

Tearz1993 · Jun 26, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Originally Posted by spawnofebil

Magebane lol is for people who think the epitome of leetness is spamming interrupts then boasting in local chat once you accidently get RoF.

Actually thats 95% of rangers not just magebane

erk · Jun 26, 2008, 11:23 PM // 23:23

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Originally Posted by Tearz1993

Actually thats 95% of rangers not just magebane

True, but a good percentage of those that use a bow are. They basically camp a Necro or some other slow caster, and try to ruin their day which just encourages fake casting and hiding behind stuff, trouble is most Magebane builds do very little damage compared to other bow builds, so their only real pressure is poison, but as they tend to camp on the slowest casters it doesn't really get spread either.

Rhamia Darigaz · Jun 26, 2008, 11:47 PM // 23:47

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Originally Posted by Sun Fired Blank

if you spent your player development on [Apply Poison], then you're in a great deal of trouble.

did i misinterpret you if i think you said "apply poison is not the type of skill you want to gain experience using, as it is not useful in competitive gw pvp"?
i hope i did

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Originally Posted by erk

trouble is most Magebane builds do very little damage compared to other bow builds, so their only real pressure is poison

hmm, another one :/
did i misinterpret you if i think you said "one of magebanes problems is that it is not a dps bow build like some other gud ones that i use, and the rangers ability to spread poison, namely with the skill apply poison, is not much of a threat in terms of pressure, barely worthy as an afterthought in an attempt to make up for real forms of effective bow dps"?
i hope i did

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Originally Posted by spawnofebil

Magebane lol is for people who think the epitome of leetness is spamming interrupts then boasting in local chat once you accidently get RoF.

moar?
did i misinterpret you if i think you said "the only reason a ranger should bring magebane shot is if said ranger is a poor interrupter who wants to boost his epeen, and the bar compression offered by this unblockable, spammable interrupt with a disabling effect is an insignificant factor in determining the effectiveness of the skill"?
i hope i did

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Originally Posted by deya

None of the titles means anything, not even champ title.

i take it you have 0 champ points. dont worry i have even fewer than that
on a more srs bsns note, i meant champ is the only title i wouldnt lol at aiming to get, as it doesn't require playing in subpar arenas, and if you succeed in your attempt to be gud at gw you will get champ points as a side effect

erk · Jun 27, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09

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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

did i misinterpret you if i think you said "apply poison is not the type of skill you want to gain experience using, as it is not useful in competitive gw pvp"?
i hope i did

edit:

hmm, another one :/
did i misinterpret you if i think you said "one of magebanes problems is that it is not a dps bow build like some other gud ones that i use, and the rangers ability to spread poison, namely with the skill apply poison, is not much of a threat in terms of pressure, barely worthy as an afterthought in an attempt to make up for real forms of effective bow dps"?
i hope i did

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moar?
did i misinterpret you if i think you said "the only reason a ranger should bring magebane shot is if said ranger is a poor interrupter who wants to boost his epeen, and the bar compression offered by this unblockable, spammable interrupt with a disabling effect is an insignificant factor in determining the effectiveness of the skill"?
i hope i did

Bad paraphrase, I was pointing out that camping on one target, like most Magebane Rangers tend to do, does not spread poison very far beyond that single target. I rate Cripshot superior in the poison pressure department and it does even less dps. It's the way it's played not the skill itself, most Magbane'rs tend to want to interrupt a single target, sure a good Magbane player can put it to better use but most bow rangers are not good. In fact a good Ranger for GvG can be quite hard to find.

Rhamia Darigaz · Jun 27, 2008, 12:14 AM // 00:14

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Originally Posted by erk

Bad paraphrase, I was pointing out that camping on one target, like most Magebane Rangers tend to do, does not spread poison very far beyond that single target. I rate Cripshot superior in the poison pressure department and it does even less dps. It's the way it's played not the skill itself, most Magbane'rs tend to want to interrupt a single target, sure a good Magbane player can put it to better use but most bow rangers are not good. In fact a good Ranger for GvG can be quite hard to find.

i hoped right
except technically both magebane and cripshot have virtually identical poison pressure potential (PPP) lvls.

(they're both >9000 btw)

erk · Jun 27, 2008, 12:41 AM // 00:41

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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

except technically both magebane and cripshot have virtually identical poison pressure potential (PPP) lvls.

Not so, Magebane has more damage potential if used to spread poison properly, there is a good chance you will see the opportunity to interrupt a healing spell or condition removal with Magebane allowing the poison to do it's damage, no such chance with Cripshot as it doesn't interrupt.

Rhamia Darigaz · Jun 27, 2008, 12:44 AM // 00:44

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Originally Posted by erk

Not so, Magebane has more damage potential if used to spread poison properly, there is a good chance you will see the opportunity to interrupt a healing spell or condition removal with Magebane allowing the poison to do it's damage, no such chance with Cripshot as it doesn't interrupt.

good thing i used the word potential, as the enemy monks could potentially have no condition removals, meaning they both have the potential to apply the exact same potential amount of poison. potentially of course

Sun Fired Blank · Jun 27, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58

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did i misinterpret you if i think you said "apply poison is not the type of skill you want to gain experience using, as it is not useful in competitive gw pvp"?

[build box][Enraged Lunge][Barbed Spear][Tiger's Fury][Apply Poison][Otyugh's Cry][Charm Animal][Comfort Animal][Resurrection Signet][/build]

"If you spent your player development on [Apply Poison], target your pet on monk, [Enraged Lunge] on recharge, tab-space-[Barbed Spear] ad infinitum, then you're in a great deal of trouble."

Billiard · Jun 27, 2008, 02:59 AM // 02:59

Well seems like the question has been answered and this thread is now going off in a different direction . . .